La cuota empresarial a la Seguridad Social (también llamada cuota patronal) es una cantidad que paga la empresa por cada trabajador que tiene contratado.
El importe a pagar será entre un 31% y un 33% (depende del CNAE, es decir del sector donde la empresa desarrolla su actividad) del salario bruto anual del trabajador. Existe un tope máximo de entre 11.100 y 12.000 euros anuales (también depende del CNAE).
¿es la cuota empresarial a la SS un impuesto?
SI
NO
March 28th, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Se supone que conlleva un servicio, pensiones, seguro médico, lo que sea. Pero es literalmente impuesto porque hay que pagarlo por cojones. Si no hubiera que pagarlo y nos dejaran a nosotros contratar seguros privados de pensiones, de desempleo, de salud y tantos otros, no creen que nos gastaríamos menos de lo que nos cobra la administración por lo mismo. Además que la Seguridad Social lo que hace es pagar con mis aportaciones a los que cobran ahora. Y cuando yo tenga que cobrar quien me asegura que después de estar pagando toda la vida tenga lo que he aportado???. Por otro lado el empresario te va a pagar de acuerdo a lo que cree que tu le vas a aportar a partir de ahí viene el Estado a quitarnos el dinero y dejarnos los sueldos ruinososo que tenemos.
March 29th, 2008 at 07:04 AM
Ya están los “liberales” quejándose de la faceta recaudadora/opresora del Estado, comparando las “ventajas indirectas” de los impuestos con “similares/alternativos” servicios privados. Los impuestos no se pagan “para que me los devuelvan”. No se pagan para que “me curen”, ni para que “me cuiden” cuando sea anciano. Se pagan porque como sociedad necesitamos financiación. Los “liberales” (en el sentido americano, es decir, conservadores aquí), habéis asumido por veraz la idea de que el capitalismo es intrínsecamente e incontestablemente bueno, y como favorece el individualismo (egoísmo), por eso lo natural y obvio sería aplicarlo a todas las facetas de la vida. Vuestra visión de pago impuestos para mi, y no para otros, os hace ingratos y hace peligrar las bondades de vivir en sociedad: el que puedas tener un “colchón” cuando las cosas se te tuerzan (aunque hagas lo posible por que no pase): te hagas viejo, te quedes inválido, te falle el hígado… Deja de mirarte el ombligo pensando a qué banco podrías estar haciendo más rico con tu plan de pensiones (seguro que aparte del que ya tendrás), criminalizando a quienes actualmente no te dan “garantías”. Lo que debería preocuparte más es si con tu opinión estás haciendo que las nuevas generaciones piensen que no tienen por qué ayudarte a sobrellevar tus últimos años, con su capacidad productiva, cuando llegue el momento. Hay una cosa cierta: saben que tú no lo harías si pudieras evitarlo.
April 3rd, 2008 at 09:29 AM
Vaya despiste que tienes, chous. Los liberales lo somos en sentido europeo, en el americano los “liberals” son los socialistas. De hecho allí los liberales suelen ser “conservatives”.
Me encanta eso de que pagar obligado la SS es algo que evita que caigamos en el individualismo feroz. Como bien dijo Friedman en su día: “Considere la Seguridad Social. Los jóvenes siempre han contribuido al mantenimiento de los mayores. Antes, el joven ayudaba a sus propios padres por un sentido de amor y deber. Ahora contribuyen a mantener a los padres de otro por obligación y miedo. La transferencia voluntaria reforzaba los lazos de la familia; la transferencia obligatoria debilita esos lazos.”
No hay nada que destruya más la solidaridad que el Estado; en Estados Unidos se ha hecho un estudio que demuestra que quienes creen que el Estado debe salir de nuestras vidas lo máximo posible donan a sus semejantes cuatro veces más dinero que quienes piensan lo contrario. Y es que cuando tenemos a Papá Estado consideramos que ya no es nuestro deber ayudar al prójimo.
Estas son algunas de las consecuencias morales de eso de que “la sociedad necesita financiación”, como si la sociedad fuese un ente concreto personalizado en el Estado, y no uno abstracto formado por millones de individuos que, ellos sí, necesitan financiación…
April 3rd, 2008 at 02:01 PM
Lo justo sería que cada uno pudiera elegir si quiere o no participar de la SS.
April 8th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Por supuesto que es un impuesto, ademas en Espania es un impuesto tremendamente perverso, puesto que la seguridad social determina cual es tu sueldo, por la categora laboral que establecen ellos mismos.
Somos un pais de mileuristas trabajadores del sector “administrativo auxiliar”
La seguridad social contribuye a que la gente pierda capacidad de negociar su sueldo con la empresa.
April 8th, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Una pregunta: Si trabajo en España (por lo tanto cotizo en aquí) pero estoy contratada por una empresa extranjera (alemana), ¿cómo hace la empresa para pagar su parte de la SS? Es posible que yo pague mi 6.4% aquí y ellos cotizen su 31% allá?
Gracias.
April 14th, 2008 at 10:52 PM “NO
Querido consultor anonimo, la razon por la que la empresa te paga el “sueldo real(sueldo bruto+tramo empresarial de la SS)” es porque valora tu trabajo como minimo tanto como dicho sueldo real, si no fuera asi y valorase tu trabajo solo por el precio del sueldo bruto(el que aparece en tu nomina), sencillamente no te contrataria( podrias estar en el paro). En resumen, por supuesto que es un impuesto, que la gente desconoce, porque “no se ve” bien, pero es impuesto al fin y al cabo. donluisfi
April 16th, 2008 at 03:26 PM
“si la empresa no lo tuviera que pagar, no te lo iba a dar a tí por tu cara bonita”
Si la empresa no lo tuviera que pagar, lo tendría que pagar el trabajador ¿o es que acaso “papá estado” iba a renunciar a cobrarlo? Tararí que te vi
Por otro lado, sería realmente útil que fuéramos nosotros y no nuestros empleadores los paganos:
- Tendríamos de verdad nuestro sueldo real. Y aunque al final Don Pero Solbes de los Guzmán el Bueno se llevara la pasta, al menos pasaría por nuestras manos… a lo mejor le podríamos sacar alguna rentabilidad ¿o no?
- Sabríamos de verdad lo que tenemos que pagar al estado. Los impuestos estarían claros y concretos, y no habría cotizaciones ocultas de las que el empleado no es consciente
- Se acabaría el “fraude legal” de todas esas empresas que obligan a sus trabajadores a hacerse autónomos para no tener que pagar la SS. Posiblemente esto incluso fomentara la creación de empleo
- Colateralmente, los tramites burocráticos que ahora tienen que hacer las empresas se agilizarían, lo que redundaría en mayor beneficio… a la par que estimularía la creación de empresas y puestos de trabajo
- Estaríamos en condiciones de juzgar si realmente lo que pagamos justifica los servicios que recibimos. Sabríamos si estamos “siendo solidarios”, o simplemente nos están robando (legalmente, eso sí)
- Aprenderíamos a ser conscientes del valor del dinero, de nuestra aportación a la sociedad, y de nuestros derechos y deberes. Seríamos en fin, más libres y conscientes…
Pero claro, hombres libres no interesan…
Jonsy preparando el IRPF
April 18th, 2008 at 04:23 PM
Nuevamente el falso socialismo defendiendo a ultranza los impuestos hablando de que es en beneficio se la sociedad, sin puestos no habría sanidad y sería una sociedad individualista, etc….
Las TVs públicas, las subvenciones al cine español, las agencias de normalización o fomento, la burocracia, 70.000 coches oficiales (los mismos que en TODOS los EEUU) no son beneficios para la sociedad, son lastres para la sociedad. Gracias a todos estos gastos que llaman “sociales” la sociedad no llega a fin de més.
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